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Re: Why not introduce yourself?

Postby PenitentElaine on Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:01 am

Scholastica wrote:I have been reading about the Passionists. If others have not heard of them, as I had not, then they are worth discovering.


There are several houses of that order in New England. I have read a little of the life of Elizabeth Prout, the founder of the Passionist Sisters, and I have visited a Passionist convent in Vermont. I don't know much about the life of the original founder of the order, Paul of the Cross. They attempt to combine an activist ministry with a life of prayer and contemplation. Originally, the Passionists were discalced, but they abandoned that rule some time ago. Passionist sisters do not wear traditional habits.
Thomas Berry, a priest of the Passionist Order, who died just last year, has become famous for his writings about ecology and spirituality. I've read a couple of his books. They are not traditional theology. In many ways, he seemed similar to Teilhard de Chardin in his thought. I found much inspiration in Father Berry's writings, in his belief that we should honor the natural world as a manifestation of the Divine.
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Re: Why not introduce yourself?

Postby Scholastica on Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:26 pm

PenitentElaine wrote:
Scholastica wrote:I have been reading about the Passionists. If others have not heard of them, as I had not, then they are worth discovering.


There are several houses of that order in New England. I have read a little of the life of Elizabeth Prout, the founder of the Passionist Sisters, and I have visited a Passionist convent in Vermont. I don't know much about the life of the original founder of the order, Paul of the Cross. They attempt to combine an activist ministry with a life of prayer and contemplation. Originally, the Passionists were discalced, but they abandoned that rule some time ago. Passionist sisters do not wear traditional habits..


Thanks, Elaine. I am writing an icon of Paul of the Cross, which is how I started reading about him, and then the order. :)
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Re: Why not introduce yourself?

Postby Sisterrose on Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:16 pm

My Dearest Brothers and Sisters,

I am an American woman living in the Philippines. My bishop has taken my vows and I am considered to be a diocesan religious. I live a mostly monastic life, but do teach some classes at my parish. I wear a traditional habit, complete with a wimple. The heat of the tropics, especially in the summer, provides a good deal of natural penance. I must admit, however, that when I read how one of you wears three layers of wool in the summer, I felt quite ashamed for having even ever thought that my thin habit is real penance.

I am quite new to the world of physical mortification, but have felt God calling me to it since I was a child. I have read through all of the entries in the penance forum and feel so blessed for having done so. You have all given me some wonderful ideas for how I can offer penance and bodily mortification to our Blessed Lord. I have a celice and discipline, but my former SD would not allow me to use them. My new SD and I will start working together in the next week or two. I pray God will move this priest to allow me to use them.

One promise I have made to the Lord is that if I wake up in the night and it is raining, that I will get out of bed, go outside in my slip, kneel on the concrete and pray one Rosary. It happened for the first time tonight, and it was such a blessing.

I am going barefoot whenever I am home; inside or out, though I don't know that I will have the courage to do this when I have a guest. I also want to experiment with a hobble at home. I often go three days without leaving, except to go to Mass, so it should work quite well. I just need to be sure I can get up and down the stairs.

I have kept my head shaved for nearly two years now. I keep my head covered unless I am showering. I am presently experimenting with sleeping in my full habit.

As a novice to physical mortification, I welcome your suggestions. I liked the idea of a "penance jar" and have made one for myself. Using this jar, I believe that each morning, God lets me know what specific penance He would like from me.

May God have mercy on me and all poor sinners.
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Re: Why not introduce yourself?

Postby Blue Tit on Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:58 pm

Hello dear Sister !
Welcome here. Unfortunately, this forum is quite quiet, not to say almost dead ! I think we should all try an effort to make it live, as Pia asked to all of us a few weeks ago by private messages, but I'm afraid we are too weak, or lazy, or strucked by a bad selfconciousness, or whatever I don't understand...
Our Lord bless you,
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Re: Why not introduce yourself?

Postby PenitentElaine on Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:32 am

Welcome, Sister Rose! It was very inspiring to me, to read of your commitment to a life of prayer and penance. Like many of us here, I often feel very alone and isolated, because so few Catholics would understand my devotional and penitential practices. Discovering this forum a few months ago did much to strengthen my conviction that mortification of the flesh was very much in the sound Catholic tradition, and that this is the way in which I am called upon to atone for my sins.

It is not for me to say if you should use the cilice and discipline, but I will say, for me, they have been powerful instruments of grace. Just the reminder, in whatever form, that I am called upon to suffer for my sins, helps me to keep my mind fixed on the eternal and to avoid worldly thoughts and temptations.

It was very inspiring to read of your praying the Rosary in the rain. Like most people today, I had become used to seeking physical comfort and pleasure, so it wasn't easy for me to adjust to discomfort, even minor discomfort. Since embracing the path of penance, I have learned to renounce physical comfort, to enter into solidarity with the sufferings of our Lord and the sufferings of the poor today. The spiritual rewards have been great. Like you, I have begun to go barefoot whenever the environment permits me to do so unobtrusively. Again, that was difficult for me at first, and very humbling, but it taught me to think of my soul, instead of my soles. I think I understand now why so many religious orders, so many saints, have been "discalced." To be barefoot is a constant reminder of our vulnerability and of our humble status.

As Blue Tit(a kind, learned and pious lady, to whom I am very grateful) said, there has not been very much conversation in this list recently. I'm not sure of the reason. Perhaps that it is summer. Perhaps that many people, even in this kind of forum, still find it hard to speak openly of physical penance and asceticism. Hopefully, having a new voice among us will inspire all of us to contribute more regularly.

Yours humbly,

Elaine, a sinner

Sisterrose wrote:My Dearest Brothers and Sisters,

I am an American woman living in the Philippines. My bishop has taken my vows and I am considered to be a diocesan religious. I live a mostly monastic life, but do teach some classes at my parish. I wear a traditional habit, complete with a wimple. The heat of the tropics, especially in the summer, provides a good deal of natural penance. I must admit, however, that when I read how one of you wears three layers of wool in the summer, I felt quite ashamed for having even ever thought that my thin habit is real penance.

I am quite new to the world of physical mortification, but have felt God calling me to it since I was a child. I have read through all of the entries in the penance forum and feel so blessed for having done so. You have all given me some wonderful ideas for how I can offer penance and bodily mortification to our Blessed Lord. I have a celice and discipline, but my former SD would not allow me to use them. My new SD and I will start working together in the next week or two. I pray God will move this priest to allow me to use them.

One promise I have made to the Lord is that if I wake up in the night and it is raining, that I will get out of bed, go outside in my slip, kneel on the concrete and pray one Rosary. It happened for the first time tonight, and it was such a blessing.

I am going barefoot whenever I am home; inside or out, though I don't know that I will have the courage to do this when I have a guest. I also want to experiment with a hobble at home. I often go three days without leaving, except to go to Mass, so it should work quite well. I just need to be sure I can get up and down the stairs.

I have kept my head shaved for nearly two years now. I keep my head covered unless I am showering. I am presently experimenting with sleeping in my full habit.

As a novice to physical mortification, I welcome your suggestions. I liked the idea of a "penance jar" and have made one for myself. Using this jar, I believe that each morning, God lets me know what specific penance He would like from me.

May God have mercy on me and all poor sinners.
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Re: Why not introduce yourself?

Postby Scholastica on Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:34 am

Sisterrose wrote:My Dearest Brothers and Sisters,

I am an American woman living in the Philippines. My bishop has taken my vows and I am considered to be a diocesan religious. I live a mostly monastic life, but do teach some classes at my parish. May God have mercy on me and all poor sinners.


Nice to meet you, Sisterrose.

After reading your post yesterday, I took a look at the penance jar as well, and I think it is a very useful penance to use. Thank you for the reminder.

Having done that, I then forgot to return and say hello. :oops:
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Re: Why not introduce yourself?

Postby Pecado66 on Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:18 pm

Blue Tit wrote:Unfortunately, this forum is quite quiet, not to say almost dead ! I think we should all try an effort to make it live, as Pia asked to all of us a few weeks ago by private messages, but I'm afraid we are too weak, or lazy, or strucked by a bad selfconciousness, or whatever I don't understand...


Well, I take this quote as an incentive then... What am I? Weak? Sometimes for sure. Lazy? Way too often, I must admit..:-). Too self-conscious? It's not on me to judge that... but I think it's time for a little introduction, i think...
I was born and raised catholic and it seemed I lost my faith in my mid-twenties - due to post-adolescent "rebellion" as far as I can see it now. But as many of you know: It might be that you do not believe in God, but for sure He believes in you, so I regained faith years ago. To me, praying is an important exercise, especially saying thanksgiving prayers to thank God when a day went well. Of course I also say invocations from time to time, but only to ask God to give me strength - help yourself, then God helps you, as we say here. I am aware of being a sinner in many ways, and I believe corporal mortification helps as a purification of my soul. I execute penance by doing self-flagellation and wearing a spiked corset belt. Especially wearing the belt and meditating during the raising pain it inflicts is a good exercise while I think about the mistakes I made and how to prevent them. Finding a penance partner would be of great help to me because - as you all know - the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak...

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Re: Why not introduce yourself?

Postby Blue Tit on Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:48 pm

Hello and welcome here(wilkommen hier!) Pecado66
You're the only German here, as I'm the only French...we are surrounded by english-speaking brothers and sisters :lol:

It's really nice to have another person here.

Could you say us how you first felt the need to make physical penances, and whether you could find a spiritual director or not ?
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Re: Why not introduce yourself?

Postby exoriente on Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:42 am

Blue Tit wrote:You're the only German here

Sorry, that's not true. ;)
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Re: Why not introduce yourself?

Postby Blue Tit on Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:27 am

youpeeee ! A former silent penitent who breaks his silence !
I'm going to list all the nationalities here, saying "there is no Spanish, there is only one Greek, "etc. Seems to be a very good mean to attract people ! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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